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thing. >> joy: thanks to lisa lillien dr. ian smith, and thanks to all of my g >> welcome to the young turks. super storm sandy has done tremendous damage to the east coast the. >> that was probably one of the scariest waves i've ever seen. the amount of water coming through, i've never seen anything like that. >> cenk: we're going to be talking about what would have happened if republicans were in charge, how much did they want to cut fema? how unprepared would we have been. the actual numbers they wanted to cut right here on this show. then, do you believe in miracles? a week before the election, a republican actually gives credit to president obama. >> the president has been all over there. he deserves great credit.
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he gave me his number president white house and told me to call if i needed anything and he absolutely means it. >> cenk: but chris christy has an ulterior motive. >> is it too soon to talk about climate change or is it too late to talk about climate change? >> i never imagined that you could see glaciers this big disappearing in such a short time. >> cenk: almost no show outside of current television talking about climate change being related to sandy yesterday with that we're doubling down today. we've got the numbers to prove our case, so stay right here. it's go time. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> the scariest waves i've ever
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done. >> literally uprooted. >> you see how they're all piled up one on top of the other. >> the president has been all over there. he deserves great credit. >> we're going to do whatever we can to help you get back on your sheet. >> sharks swimming in the waters around the homes. >> we've got people right now that are having hard times because of this terrible hurricane and your generosity will make a difference. >> the storm surge just lifted up. >> they can't send workers out to make sure the rest of the crane is fastened securely to the building. >> this is going to be hard to recover from. >> cenk: led me give you a sense of the damage done so far. 39 dead at least so far and then we've got 7.4 million people without power at least $20 billion in property damage. if you wanted to know what climate change looks like, well, this is exactly what it looks
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like. in fact, look at a compilation of the local news to get a sense of how much we are already in the middle of climate change and the devastating consequences. >> they say they have never seen anything like it. many, many homes and businesses, we're told that at its peak, 80% of the burrow of little fairy was flooded or underwater at that point. they evacuated more than a thousand people, using boat brigade. neighboring towns tame in to help. >> it's going down another 200 yards south and if you now look north i know, it might be a tougher angle to see past the street sign, past the s.u.v., we're talking all the way into bellmar. >> these rescues started papping and trucking coming in. we're seeing more people stepping out of this national
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guard truck. >> you see water right up to the doors here in long beach island and just total devastation. >> a jaw dropping video shot from her hunting lon long idol back yard. the rain saturated sail with jarring winds were able to shake this tree down to its core. it looks like a monster coming out of the ground. >> cenk: i grew up in new jersey so i know what it's like in bellmar or was like, what it was like in long beach island before the flooding that you saw. i hope that it shakes the new york media out of its com place ends, because a lot of the media is based there. if a tornado hits you in the midwest, they didn't see it. if a tornado hits you in florida, they don't see it. now that they've seen it maybe they just might understand that claims change is not something that is going to happen 50 years
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from now, it's happening right now. we go to see the devastation. >> an unprecedented 13-foot storm surge crashed into manhattan, sending salt water into the new york city subway system inundating tunnels. one tunnel took 11 feet of water, pushing cars and stacking them up like toys. >> a disaster was faced as devastating as its faced in its history. >> a seven to know tanker was pushed on to a long island street the. >> you might say that's one storm. of course that's true, whether it's a snowstorm, record heat for a storm like this. when you look at it in a macro sense and you look at the trends then it becomes absolutely clear, for example it has been 331 months in a row now that with global temperatures have been above the 20th century average. that is stunning. now in 2012 alone, we had record
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arctic ice sea loss. we had two record u.s. heatwaves, a record drought and now we have this unprecedenced hurricane. when you look at how many hurricanes we've been having over the decades in the 1970's, we had on average eight a year. 1980's, nine. 1990's, 11. last decade, 15. three years go this decade, 19, 18 19. that's just so far. we've got a whole month left of hurricane season. you see the trend from eight to 19? in not that long a period of time. as you look at all of this, you get a sense of the macro picture. is the media doing justice to this? hell, no. so far 8.7% of t.v. news during the july heatwave, which july was the hottest month in recorded history in america
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just 8.7%. paul ryan's workouts were covered three times more than the loss of arctic sea ice. finally, between 2009 and 2011, coverage of climate change during t.v. news dropped by 90%. climate change. ridiculous. we're not going to make that mistake here on the young turks. to help us talk about this issue. we've brought in two of our own experts, mark thomson long time weatherman here in l.a. and someone who cares passionately about this issue and has for a long time has joined us as well. let me talk to you first about this storm and why we might think that this weather event could be part of the climate change that we're seeing on a macro level as i just laid out. >> of course, you're really good to point out the macro level
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because it's the constellation of things that you mentioned and more. it's not just this one super storm although this storm was remarkable because it brought together three distinct complexes of atmosphere disturbance into one big horror show as we've seen. when you look at sea surface temperatures and how they have ricin. this is quite important tomorrow, hurricanes are the greatest way the planet earth has of moving heat energy from one hemisphere to the other. this is the big energy transfer that the earth does. when you add a lot of energy to the environment with fossil fuel burnage and all the other ways that we're throwing off kilter that energy balance it makes sense that there would be a corresponding rice in hurricanes. >> cenk: i love that explanation. it's not just random. the climate deniers, i don't know, it's random.
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it's not random. it's based on the events that mark explained. kara, it seems we have a combination of two or three storms here producing the super storm. is that also something that might be related to climate change? >> it's funny that you mention that and call it a super storm a.p. called it a franken storm and cnn banned the use of the term saying that that word frankenstorm which we know because it's multiple storms coming together, they said it kind of implied this was a man made disaster and wanted to be careful about attribution. that's a point we are not discussing is attribution is very, very difficult when it comes to an individual storm to say oh this is caused by climate change. it's like connecting a to z
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because there are so many variables in between. what we do know is that the general atmosphere is changing the likelihood of storms like this to occur. it is more probable that hurricane sandy would happen now in a warmer climate than it would otherwise. with these kind of arctic blasts coming down, keeping it onshore longer causing the terrible snow sleet hail, that destructive part of the tropical storm turning into a land mass kind of arctic storm. >> there's a reason for that. i think that the media's been intimidated. they say if you mention climate change in relationship to these storms or call it a franken storm, implying that it's man made you're showing political bias. the republicans say it's not. mark, it's a fascinating thing. as a meteorologist on a micro level. the t.v. stations pay you a lot of money to trust you get the weather right. if you tell them on a macro level, here's what i'm telling you about our climate they say we don't trust you because the
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republicans say this and the democrats say that. >> they view them of completely different issues and they're married. one is macro, one is micro. you make a good point the liberal media being bashed. if this is a liberal issue, why don't you hear about it? it calls into question the liberal bias. >> they're scared to death of being called liberal and lean massively in the other oh direction. even when the storm is literally knocking the reporters off the air sometimes and they're getting hit by these waves no, no, it's not climate change. >> this isn't our first rodeo. we dealt with a hurricane that affected the convention earlier in the hurricane season. you're right. they don't want to go near these storms with 10-foot poles that say climate change on them. >> cenk: one thing i understand that has contradicted more to this is the arctic ice meltedding. there is an amazing documentary.
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i want to show a real quick clip and have you explain how it contributed to this. >> it's starting, i think. adam, it's starting. >> look at that. look at the whole thing. ♪ >> it all started in iceland. >> i'll take my boots off. >> i never imagined that you could see glaciers this big. >> cenk: now, guys as we look at that, you know, i covered that story several times on this show. i feel like sometimes putting aside the media and not covering it and covering the ryan's at-batsabsmore people think i don't live in the arctic. if you live below 34th street in new york today it might have something to do with you. >> people don't see that as being related to a warmer climate. they don't sea that. when we talk about the arctic ice melting, it is contributing
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to a rise in the oceans. what is contributing more is that the oceans themselves are physically warmer so have a larger mass. this contributes to the hurricane effect because hurricanes feet off of warm surface temperatures in the ocean. i want to go back really quickly chenk to what you were talking about for this liberal fear of discussing these things. something i deal with as a science reporter is the fear of discussing the nuance in this science conversation because i'm afraid when i talk about how this is a really nuanced problem, it adds fuel to them saying it happened years ago. all of a sudden the climate deniers say this can't possibly be global warming. >> they use the advantage of science, which is we're not certain about everything. we do experimentation and give you a parameter within which things can happen, an
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explanation, and we have hypothesis theories, and they go aha you don't know. i know because god told me. god turns out to be the koch brothers right? >> i'm loving all of the tweets, you know sandy is god's way of... i actually sent out a tweet last night it's not god's way of anything. nature has no agenda here. >> we're used to that. these big storms have always been accompanied by those who want to attribute it to a divine course. that's absurd on its face. i don't know what to say to that. >> thank you guys, actually come back and stay with us and we'll have more discussions about the ramifications later on the show. now, when we come back, the political ram any occasions. what has it done to the campaign and to people with president obama and romney. >> i told the governors if they're getting an answer no
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from the federal government, they can call me personally at the white house. >> some republicans even praising the president. unbelievable. we'll show that you when we come back. later, the elbow of the day also has to do with climate change. can you guess who's getting it? t.y.t., young tucker. in a dive! here we go! brace for impact! >> you saved a lot of lives. > denzel washington saving the day. >> he was very worried. >> looks like a cool character. >> he reminds you of. >> sully. >> the guy who landed the plane in the hudson. >> he has to be a hero. >> he definitely a hero, yea. >> now, what if you heard the other side of the story? >> i had a couple beers the night before the flight. >> you had alcohol in your system. that could be life in prison. >> are you hiding something? >> well, there's a darker side to this guy. >> makes it a lot more complicated. >> there's more depth there. >> he's not god himself. >> so it makes it much more interesting. >> you saved my mom. >> it's much more intriguing now. >> while there are two sides to every story... >> it's a lie.
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>> cenk: super storm sandy has had an effect on the political campaigns. all events were suspended today kind of, romney had an event anyway, it was a relief event. tomorrow though, the romney and ryan campaign are back at it. president obama and biden still on a break tomorrow saying they are doing no campaigning events because they've got to deal with the aftereffects of the storm. meanwhile, president obama looked awfully presidential today when he was at the red
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cross. let's watch. >> obama: my instructions to the federal agency has been do not figure out why we can't do something. i want you to figure out how we do something. i want you to cut through red tape. i want you to cut through bureaucracy. i want to get the resources where they're needed as quickly as possible. >> cenk: by all accounts, he's doing a very good job being on top of this storm obviously and how to clean it up. i do remember a certain guy who is a republican governor who thought that he wasn't showing the proper amount of leadership. in fact, here's what that governor said during the republican national convention. >> i'm here to tell you tonight it is time to end this era of absentee leadership in the oval office and send real leaders back to the white house.
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here's what chris christie had to say today. >> the president is great. i talked to him three times yesterday. he asked when i needed, i asked if you could expedite the federal disaster declare reaction. i got a call at 3:00 a.m. this morning, i understand that he signed the major disaster declaration for new jersey. the president has been all over it. i was on the phone to him three times personally. he gave me his number president white house and told me to call him if i need anything and he absolutely means it. >> what happened now. when asked about romney's role about this, here's what happened with chris christie. >> romney may do storm-related events. is there any possibility that governor romney may go to new jersey to tour some of the damage with you? >> i have no idea nor am i the least bit concerned or
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interested. i've got a job to do here in new jersey that is much bigger than the presidential politics and i could care less about any of that stuff. i've got a job to do, 2.4 million people out of power devastation on the shore floods in the northern part of my state. if you think i care about presidential politics, then you don't know me. so romney, a little absentee, whereas the president is right there and getting high praise all of a sudden from chris christie. i'm going to bring in our political correspondent michael shure in here. he didn't strike me as the kind
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of governor who is thinking about 2016. he is trying to help his state being the governor and the president is being a president. >> cenk: i think there's some chance that it's a little of both. he has had some mix ups with the romney campaign, they didn't love his speech at the convention, it was into credibilitiered on chris christie. i'm just saying. >> i don't think you orchestrate these things, but there are people who will definitely agree with you. >> cenk: what was romney up to today. >> romney had a relief event in ohio. it wasn't a campaign event though, if you went to it, you did see the romney bio video playing at the event in ohio. there were also people there and you can here mitt romney talking at this event, i believe. >> other people were hurting this morning, they were hurting last night and the storm goes on. i've had the chance to speak with some of the governors in the affect areas and they've
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talked about a lot of people having hard times. people right here got up this morning, some went to the grocery store i see and purchased things these families will need. i appreciate your generosity. >> my favorite part of this is it was a relief event. the president gets to be the president, take control of this. he is running for reelection a week from today. it's hard to play that balance. these two women, you see one of them holding a shirt that says fire obama and the other one with cans of things, it wasn't a relief event. >> when we come back, well, chris christie, wasn't the only person running around new jersey. the mayor of newark was running
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around with diapers. they might cancel halloween in new jersey. is that possible? >> for those of you who thought it was a better way to wait this out, to those elected officials who decided to ignore my admonition this is now your responsibility. only time you can get to a polling place. make sure that voting is your highest priority on election day. besides, you can always dvr my show. you really cant' dvr the future of the country. to help you make informed decisions, watch current tv's politically direct lineup. only on current tv. so vote and vote smart.
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>> cenk: all right we're back on the "young turks." sandy hasn't left. she's in the middle of the country. the winds have slowed down but the storm is going throughout the united states of america as we speak. so now back to new jersey. well, chris christie has an interesting idea about halloween. maybe we should cancel it this year or move it. >> i can't imagine that it's going to be safe for kids to go around for halloween in most parts of the state. we're going to make an assessment of that during the
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day today. if we to have reschedule halloween for another day we want kids to have halloween but we want them to be safe and alive. >> i didn't know you could reschedule halloween. can you reschedule christmas? maybe chris christie could. he was praising president obama as we showed you in the last segment, but not the democratic mayor of atlantic city. they had words about who's fault it was that people were still stuck in atlantic city. let's watch that. >> in atlantic city, we are for whatever reason mayor langford urged people to stay in shelters in the city, despite my admonition to evacuate, he gave them comfort for some reason to stay. so for those of you on the barrier islands who decided it was a better way to wait this out and for those elected officials who decided to ignore my admonition, this is now your
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responsibility. >> there's always going to be that certain few that despite your best efforts are going to do as they see fit anyway and then at the last minute, decide that they should have left. in life, it's better to have options and not need them than to need options and not have them. >> >> this is actually live, let's listen in for a few seconds. >> be responsive for their needs for food, water and cots. four federal disaster medical assistance teams are aiding our state staff shelters. two teams have arrived and two teams are on their way. the county medical reserve corps is action have id and assessing in our medical shelters for the folks who are there. >> that is chris christie looking pretty has gone guard which by the way for a politician at times like this is
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terrific because people want you to work hard and he is. fair is fair. we are back let's start with the fight between the mayor and governor. is there any way of knowing who is right? it seals in every one of these disasters, local state and federal officials blame each other. >> they do and it hearkens back to the governor of louisiana during canine and her problems with the mayor. he is being the governor right now. so he's, i don't think it's -- i'm looking through this verial truisticly.
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>> there's the altruistic view and the politician view. langford the mayor is like oh, yeah, why don't he come down here and we'll settle it mano a mano. i love it. [ laughter ] >> rescheduling halloween i've never heard that. >> that's in sane to me. kids can still have halloween at home. just celebrate with your family. >> you've got to trick-or-treat. that's halloween. >> don't tell the kids right now live on the air. go outside during this. >> i think i have a conservative position on it. just use common sense. we don't need the government to tell us when to go out for halloween or trick-or-treating. if your neighborhood is flooded don't go out. if it's not, go out. >> it's ridiculous for chris christie or anyone to interpret him to say that he's canceling halloween. he can't cancel halloween. >> he just says in new jersey,
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we had a really bad storm let's all go trick-or-treating in a couple of days. boom he canceled halloween. >> which is by the way common sense and the whole thing doesn't need to be said, but he said i'm going to issue an edict. >> was this another christie gap where he says what's on his mind. >> he was asked about halloween which is a silly thing to be asked when you're talking about people who don't have houses. >> we didn't see the part where the reporter asked the question. >> if he reschedules it for next tuesday, then we might have an issue. [ laughter ] >> cenk: if i were to give him more credit here. he just said that they are in that press conference we showed you that they are going to rebuild the boardwalk. ok? now, by the way and part of the way they are going to do that is take a lot of federal money right. he's given president obama a lot
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of credit because he's going to get a lot of money. what happened? i thought he were against federal money. the mayor of newark new jersey rushed into a burning building literally and rescued somebody. when he gets tweets, he comes to the rescue. let me show you a tweet: >> cenk: then he says: >> somebody had called him. another one: >> cenk: and it goes on and on. anna, you've got to give cory booker credit. he seems like the one politician in america who cares about the homeless people. >> he kind of puts himself at risk in the process of doing so. he's got a little bit of a hero
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complex. it worked out well for him in the beginning and now, i'm not saying he's using it to his advantage, but he's getting positive press for it. >> he's a mad tweeter right we know that and he does seem to be sort of heroic. he's like if batman tweeted like right after taking down the joker and three henchman, he does seem to be a do-gooder. >> cenk: batman, i need your help here. that's the new bat signal. >> you want to go to your game. who's going to challenge chris christie next time, corey. >> you've got these two guys. we'll look forward to that that. thank you all you guys. we really appreciate it. >> this was the best episode of the five effort.
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>> ok, all right. all right, guys. when we come back, well, we've got a lot more for you. including the lies of the republicans. that's what i was looking for. by the way i mean, it's a funny thing to say but you're going to love these lies, because we're going to show you exactly how they lied and consistently so when we return. >> that was outrageous when i saw it last night. everybody in our community is outraged. it's just a blatant attempt to keep people in this community particularly black people and poor people from voting. add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup.
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>> cenk: it looks like it is republicans are doing as much as they can to make sure as little people as possible vote especially if they might be democrats. now, in some instances, it is media is unfortunately helping
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them. here is this radio ad rung in pittsburgh. >> when you need to vote. >> the voter i.d. law was just recently signed by the governor. >> you need to know. >> you're not going to be allowed to vote unless you present an acceptable photo identification. get to a licensing center and get a photo i.d. at the driver's license center. >> that is totally not true. so they're putting an ad out there saying you need voter i.d. the court struck that down you. don't need photo i.d. and that might discourage people from voting. i don't know if that was an honest mistake or not on the part of kdk after. they are making these mistakes on purpose. first of all in states like florida, indiana and virginia, all swing states at least indiana was last time, as well. they're saying you can do phone voting. don't come into the booth to
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vote, just vote over the phone. what the hell does that mean? what an unbelievable lie. we don't know who is sending those out. that's probably republican operatives was. in florida, we have fake voter purge letters and these letters are written on a whole county supervisor of election letterhead, but they're fake. the supervisor of election didn't write that. they are saying you've been purged, don't bother to come in and vote. intimidating billboards going up in african-american and latino communities in cleveland ohio saying if you go to vote, you might get arrested for x., y. and z. reasons. then you've got misleading ads like the one we showed you. this is actually run by a lot of the governments in pennsylvania, they're running radio ads and t.v. ads saying hey, you know what, you might need photo i.d.
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that's not true. finally, we had one last one employer pressure. that's from the actual c.e.o.'s. remember mitt romney speaking to them saying if there's one thing you can do to help you can tell their employees if they know what's good for them, they better vote on our side. the c.e.o.'s have complied and sent these threatening emails saying you're going to be fired unless you vote for our guy. that's not all. wait until you get ahold of mar copiopia county, where sheriff joe is. they've been accused of doing an enormous amount of antti latino actions. watch this. >> last week, we heard from a concerned voter in democracy 2012 complaining the wrong election date was written in spanish on her voter i.d. cards. they said it was an isolated accident only 50 people were given the wrong information.
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>> we found out today book marks were handed out with that same incorrect date, once again written in spanish. >> but it gets better. the english version of the same pamphlet shows the correct date of voting, november 6, the spanish version oopsy happens to say you vote on november 8. what a wild coincidence. in the county considered the most anti-latino county in the country, they just happen to tell spanish speaking people to vote on the wrong date. what a coincidence. wisconsin, they are doing training, eight recently, 17 since september where romney advocates trained people to go to the polls and then give people misleading information. what do they do? here's the different litany of things. felons can't vote. that's not true. in wisconsin once you've served your time, felons can vote. they needed proof of residency.
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once again not true. they say if you're handicapped, you're going to need to file certain papers if you don't want to come up to the polls. it's all made up. it's not true. you don't have to do that at all. observer assistance. you can get observer assistance but they tell you you cannot. why do they do all that? to gum up the works so it's slow to vote in the areas that are mainly democratic. they say you can't vote, oh, no, you need voter i.d., handicapped people canned vote, et cetera, et cetera. they make it harder to vote in democratic areas. they've got a million dirty tricks. which side believes in democracy and which side is actively working against deposition exhibit. the democrats are not doing any of this stuff. the republicans are emptying their dirty bag of tricks. come on. the rest of the media calls this
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even? it ain't even. you've got the bad guys and you've got, i don't call democrats the good guys, but they're not like this and they don't cheat like this. >> when we come back, we've got a lot more for you coming up, including a fascinating conversation about halloween and weather we have too many sexy outfits. it's a fascinating story come right back. >> girls get the message from very early on that what's most important is how they look. boys get the message that this is what's important about girls. successful democracy depended on an informed electorate. our country's future depends on you. to help you make informed decisions, watch current tv's politically direct lineup.
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